Statisfaction

Just for the fun of it…

Posted in General, Statistics by Pierre Jacob on 6 November 2012

On this useful series of posts from Freakonometrics:

Freakonometrics – Links

I stumbled upon this 1996 article published in Ecological Applications:

Discussion: Should Ecologists Become Bayesians?

It was a really fun and surprising read to me, so I felt like sharing. Most surprising was the argument that established Frequentism had a better track record than Bayesian stats. What a weird remark from a researcher! Hopefully the atmosphere among ecologists changed since 1996 (and people learned about Bayesian model choice), but I think that such articles explains why experienced Bayesian statisticians spend time writing replies like “Not only defended but also applied”: The perceived absurdity of Bayesian inference and the recently-arXived anti-Bayesian moment and its passing for instance.

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  1. Posterior samples « Sam Clifford said, on 9 November 2012 at 05:28

    […] Should ecologists become Bayesians? […]

  2. Jeremy Fox said, on 23 January 2013 at 17:59

    I think it’s clear enough from Brian Dennis’ piece that he’s against *subjective* Bayesians. Bayesians like Andrew Gelman, who believe statistics is a tool for learning about the world rather than updating one’s personal beliefs, and who are prepared to throw out their models (e.g., based on posterior predictive checks, which is something a subjective Bayesian wouldn’t countenance) aren’t Dennis’ target at all. Insofar as the anti-Bayesian moment in ecology has passed, I think (or hope!) it’s because Dennis’ worry about ecologists becoming subjective Bayesians has mostly proved unfounded.

    • Pierre Jacob said, on 24 January 2013 at 09:26

      Thanks for the clarification!


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